Last donations: William B., Phoenixville (12/9/25, thanks William, our first contribution since Oct.) Ed S., New Hope, and Joe S., Drexel Hill thanks to both Ed and Joe; David N., Silver Spring, Md. 10/10/25 (thanks so much, Dave) Brian C., North Philly 9/27/25 ; John from Landenberg (who we sat next to when Temple beat Maryland, 38-7) at the game today 9/6/25 (thanks, John); Jon E., Cincinnati (8/30/25), thanks, Jon; David K., Glen Mills, 8/25/25; Eric B., San Diego 8/23/25; Jay M., Salem Ore. 8/15/25 (proving that Temple Owls are everywhere. Thanks, Jay). Another anonymous donation from the same source (thanks a bunch), 8/10/2025; Anonymous (your generosity is greatly appreciated, much thanks) and Joe F., Nashville, Tenn,, 8/5//25 (thanks, Joe, our first contribution in over a month); Steve B., Rose Valley, Pa., a Temple fan (thanks, Steve, that goes in the pot for a backup laptop if this one goes down Only $300 away), 7/6/25:
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Michael A., Havertown, PA (thanks, Mike); 5/14/25 Anoymous (thanks, much appreciated) 4/25/25, David B., Delaware (owner of the most photogenic dog on the internet and someone who I and the late Phil M. had a great conversation with at the 2012 UConn game… can’t believe how time flies, thanks, Dave!!! will definitely meet up again at the next Temple at Delaware game); Matt P. (former Temple player under Al Golden), 4/21/2025 (thanks, Matt, could not have come at a better time because we have a bill for this site coming 4/30 and did not know how we were going to pay it); Brian, Philadelphia (thanks, Brian for being a long-time reader, sorry I missed you at C&W this year) 4/15/25; Ed S., New Hope, PA (4/6/25; thanks Ed, our first donation in nearly two months);
2/8/25: Anonymous.
Robert G., Quakertown, 12/17/24 and Joe F., Philadelphia, 12/16/24.. thanks for taking some of the sting out of paying to fix this laptop. Much appreciated.
Others:
Brian C., Philadelphia.
Anonymous, Anywhere USA (thanks for the generous donation), 9/2/24; David B., Delaware (8/24/24), thanks, David!) Ed P., Yardley, Pa. (6/20/24) …. thanks, Ed!!
David E., Philadelphia, Pa., 6/19/24 (thanks David); Zamani F., Philadelphia, Pa. June 7 (thanks, Z) Michael A., Havertown, Pa, May 9; John J., South Bloomingville, Ohio May 5; Hill Studios, Paulsboro, N.J. (thanks for breaking the longest time between contributions in TFF history), May 1, 2024 (the three May contributions will keep us afloat through the summer, thanks, Mike, John and Hill Studios it’s great to know people care); Jon E., Cincinnati, 10/11/23 (thanks, Jon); John from Landenburg at the Miami game (in the parking lot no less), 9/23/23. Thanks, John. Great conversation as always.
Two donations on opening day against Akron, one at the game from Ed of Perkasie and one from the greatest punter in Temple history, Eddie L., of the same hometown of Bruce Springsteen (our first contributions since April and they keep this site going; much appreciated); Heriberto S., McDonough, GA, 4/24/23 (thanks, Heriberto!!) Two on 4/14/23 (thanks to Joe F. and Ross M. ); Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla. 2/18/23 (thanks, Tom!!!)Ed P., Yardley, Pa. (1/9/23; thanks, Ed,) Lawrence S., West Chester, Pa., 12/28/22, our first contribution in over a month (thanks Larry, this will help in having to replace the printer we purchased in the summer that went on the fritz); Bob C., Chadds Ford, Pa., 11/27/22 (thanks Bob, our first contribution since September) Ed P., Perkasie, Pa. who donated 9/24/22 at the UMass game and Ed and I both remember and love Pennridge coach Wayne Helman; Joe S. (Delaware County), 9/3/22 (thanks Joe, hope to see you at Lafayette or RU); James G. (thanks James and for all the great posts you make on this site),, 7/29/22: Matt P. (former Al Golden player, thank you Matt for the generous donation it will be put to good use as we will explain in Monday’s post), 6/9/22; Matt F., Horsham, Pa. (thanks, Matt!!), June 6, 2022; David, B., Milton, DE (thanks, Dave), April 11, 2022: Andy B., Philadelphia, Pa. (our first donation of 2022, thanks Andy), March 3, 2022; Ed P., Yardley, Pa. 12/25/21 (thanks, Ed for the Christmas donation); Matt F., no hometown found (“a celebratory donation for Carey’s firing”), 11/30/21 thanks, Matt; Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio, 11/29/21 (thanks, Jon for the donation and the great comments on this site); James G., Royersford, Pa. 11/28/21 (thanks, Jim, for the donations and your comments on the website); Anonymous (no home town given but donation really appreciated), 11/20/2021; Roger D., Rehoboth Beach,, Del., 10/24/21; Joe S., Drexel Hill, Pa. 10/3/21 (thanks, Joe) At the BC game (9/18), John from Landenburg (thanks, John for being a great friend of this site for so many years); Three Aug. 21 donations: Eric A (former player), Atlanta, Ga; Anonymous (by request), Cincinnati, Oh; Tim R., Buffalo, N.Y. (sincere thanks to all); David N., Silver Springs, Md (thanks Dave) 7/10/21; former Temple player Matt P., who lives in Columbus, GA now (thanks Matt) 7/9/21; Joe F., Philadelphia (4/7/11, thanks Joe) Matt F., Horsham, Pa., 3/27/21 (thanks, Matt); Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio (1/31/21, thanks Jon) Ed P.,, Yardley, Pa. (thanks, Ed, much appredicated), 1/16/21; Mitchell S. , 12/21/20, our first contribution since (10/8) earlier, Former Owl Bruce G., Flourtown, Pa, who generously donated $100 in “honor” of the Ambler guy 10/8/20; (if they hate you in Ambler, we love you in Flortown,” BG says). Thanks, BG, we appreciate it; Earlier: James G., Philadelphia (7/21/20, thanks James) Robert B., Philadelphia (7/13/20, thanks, Bob, hope to see you at the tailgates again this fall); Previous: Jon E. from Cincinnati 6/15/20, our first donation this calendar year (thanks, Jon); Earlier, John from Landenberg; Kurt B., Wyomissing Hills, PA (former Temple player, 10-15-19) Earlier: David B. , Springfield, PA (9/26/19 … thanks, Dave!) also John from Landenberg (9/21/19); Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla. (8/22/19, thanks Tom!! Also, 10 days earlier, Bob. C and Joe S. and, on June 26, first bowl MVP Mark B.
Earlier: Matt F., Philadelphia; Matt P. (former Temple player) John from Landenberg and Jon E. from Cincinnati
Jay M. no hometown found ; Earlier: William B. Chicago; John from Landenberg, ; Mark B, South Jersey, Joe S, Springfield, PA…,
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Ed P., Perkasie, Pa; and Richard W. (no hometown given); Phil E., Lorton, Va.; Tim C., no hometown available; Bob C., David B., Springfield (Montco); Mark B., from South Jersey; John from Landenberg, Pa.; Joe S., Primos, PA; Thomas W., Palm Coast Fla; Jon E., Cincinnati; Mike S.,no hometown; Ed P., Yardley; William B., Chicago; Matt M., Philadelphia; Matt T.., Oreland; Kevin H., Philadelphia; John from Landenberg, Pa.; Carl M, Silver Spring, Md.;; Brett K., Swedesboro, N.J.; Joe S., Primos, Pa.; Ed M., Paoli, Pa.; Phil E., Lorton, Va.; Ross M., Garden City, NY; David K., Malvern; Jon E., Cincinnati ; Jon, SE Ohio; Cordalia and Jim S., Eastampton, NJ.; Herb G., Newport News, Va.; Richard W., Royersford; Matt T., Philadelphia, Pa.; MWB, Mechanicsville, Va.; Phil E., Lorton, Va.; K.J., Alexandria, Va.; Jeff D., Philadelphia,; Michael R., Philadelphia,Matt T, Philadelphia, Pa.; Ed M., Paoli, Pa.(8 in a row for 8 in a row, thanks EM); Jake and Diane Gicker, Dunmore, Pa.; Ed M., Paoli, Pa.; Adrian R. Sr., Harrisburg, Pa.; Frank M., Marlton, N.J.; Ernie, Millville, N.J.; ; Jay M., Salem, Ore.; Joe S., Primos, Pa.; Phil E., Lorton, Va; Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla.; Matt M., (five donations in a row); Kevin F., Philadelphia, Pa.;Matt M. (three donations in a row, thanks, Matt); Matt M.; Matt M.; Brian C., Philadelphia, Pa.; Matt M., Hometown ;Unknown; David N., Silver Spring, Md.; Matt M., hometown unknown; Frank K., Horseheads, N.Y.; Mike F., Montauk, N.Y.; John, Landenberg, Pa.; Michael B, D.C.; Joe S., Primos, Pa.; James G., Philadelphia, Pa.; Michael R., Philadelphia, Pa.; David N., Silver Spring (Md.);
Mark H., Gilbertsville, Pa.; Lisa M., Hummelstown, Pa.; Johnny Who, West Chester, Pa.; John T., Medford, N.J. (formerly North Catholic, Philly); Jon, SE Ohio; Jay M., Salem, Ore.; Dan M., Moscow, Pa.; Cyrus, Oklahoma City; Jon E., Cincinnati; Chris K., Harrisburg, Pa.; Chip M., Silver Spring, Md.; Dave B., Springfield, Pa.; Kent J., Alexandria, Va.; Ross M., Garden City, N.Y.; Joe S., Primos, Pa.; Ed F., Philadelphia, Pa.; Frank P., Jamison, Pa.; Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio; Phil E., Lorton, Va.; Matt G., Haddonfield, N.J.; Tom L., Charlottesville, Va.; Thomas S., Landisville, Pa.; Jack D., Haddonfield, N.J.; Heriberto S., McDonough, Ga; Dr. Jim S., Mt. Pleasant, S.C.; Dick White, Milton, Del.; Matt T., Philadelphia; Jerome S., North Caldwell, N.J.; Mike D., Fairview, N.C.; Tim W., Myerstown, Pa.; Edward P., Yardley, Pa.; Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla.; Kurt B., Wyomissing, Pa.; Joe S., Primos, Pa.; Tom S., East Norriton, Pa.; Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio; Matt T., Yardley, Pa.; Steve C., West Chester, Pa.; Floyd, Blackwood, N.J.; Jim J., Chalfont, Pa.; John, Landenberg, Pa; Jon E., Cincinnati; Ron A., Camp Hill, Pa.; Jay S., Jenkintown, Mr. John H.; Jonathan N., Atlanta, Ga.; Michael E., Levittown, Pa.; Ted D., Media, Pa. Nick and Sharon, Upper Bucks County; Phil E., Lorton, Va.; Todd H., New York City; Alex H., Westport, CT; Joe S., Primos, PA; Kent J., Alexandria, Va.; Ross M., Garden City, N.Y.; Stanley G., Mountain Top, Pa.; David N., Silver Spring, Md.; Micah F., Philadelphia, Pa.; James S., Mt. Pleasant, S.C.; Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla.; Johnny B. at the Hill Studio, Paulsboro, N.J.; Nick C., Philadelphia; Tom C., Birmingham, Ala.; Phil. E. (Fast Phil), Lorton, Va; Jerome S., North Caldwell, N.J.; Kent J., Alexandria, Va.; George P., Downingtown, Pa.; Edward F., Philadelphia; Bryan S., North East, Pa.; Josh P., West Chester, Pa.; Brent Z., Atlanta, Ga.; David B., Springfield (D), Pa; Lisa M., Hummelstown, Pa.; David H., Pottstown, Pa.; Brian O., Ambler, Pa; Frank P., Jamison, Pa.; Brian C., Philadelphia; Mark B., Manlius, N.Y.; Ted D., Media; Scott J., Columbus, Ohio; Thomas H., Mullica Hill, N.J.; George T., Rehoboth Beach, Del.; Rob G., Fleetwood, Pa; Steve C., West Chester, Pa.; Fred A., St. Augustine, Fla.; Michael S., Westfield, N.J.; John, Landenberg, Pa.; Kent J., Alexandria, Va.; Frank P., Jamison, Pa; Matt G., Basking Ridge, N.J.; Joe S., Primos, PA; Nick and Sharon, Upper Bucks County; John T., Medford, N.J.; Cap P., Finksburg, Md; Coolowl, New York City; Michael B., Washington, D.C.; Oakee, Salem, VA; Rob from Fleetwood; John from New Kensington; Kathyrn, Bloomingville, Ohio; Rockland Owl; Matt, Haddonfield, N.J.; Anthony, New York City; Jason F., Berlin (N.J.); Ed, New Hope; Mark B., Manlius, N.Y.; Mike, Lindenwold, N.J.; Tom C., Birmingham, Ala. Jim, Mt. Pleasant, S.C.; Kurt, Wyomissing Hills, PA;
Dave, Ocean City, N.J.; James, Chalfont; Ross, Garden City (N.Y.); Schmitty, Ocean City, N.J.; Sarge (via Schmitty);
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Temple Football Forever 
My favorite part is getting to see the current students enjoying the game. The team needs more alumni support if it is going to survive and thrive. Unfortunately, the team has been so bad for so long that alumni support is not great. It will take awhile to build but you have to start somewhere.
Thought the size of the crowd yesterday was a good sign. Also PSU game aside, which I kind of put in it’s own category, yesterday was one of the best atmosphere’s I’ve experienced at a Temple game in a long time, both tailgating and in the stadium. Met quite a few if the “prodigals” in the Alumni tailgate tent who said they were going to most likely attend more than Homecoming this year. Hopefully that attitude will turn into more season ticket holders and Owl Club members
For all you fire Marcus Satterfield fans just remember you could have fraudazio here, his offense put a whopping 3 points on the board Saturday. This was after they put up a 7 points the week before. Thank goodness he’s gone.
There was a call to fire him because his offense stank. They are not running that offense now. On top of that, many of us didn’t like Addazzio. Not to defend him, his offense has suffered some key injuries including to his QB.
Addazio is a dinosaur and I’m glad he took his Jurassic show on the road to bean town. Even with the beautiful campus, complete with its own stadium, he still can’t generate anything resembling a successful or even watchable program.
I do feel badly for AG’s struggles down in the swamps of Florida. MR and company are standing on the shoulders of the football renaissance he started. I hope MR sticks around after this season to build on his success and I hope we’re all rewarded with a new stadium in which 35k fans feels like a full stadium.
actually if they build the NBC Today Show Stadium at the size they are talking about 5,000 fans would have been turned away yesterday
it’s a beautiful thing and it’s something the florida fans warned us and something we warned the bc fans and the bc fans will warn the ball state fans …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uylThRdXRs
Mike that video is awesome. I didn’t see the finish to the game but that has to be one of the stupidest calls I’ve ever seen…and for the record my 85 year old mom scored as many points yesterday as Adazzio’s offense. I never liked that prick and I’m glad he’s wallowing in the misery of his latest ‘dream job’. Btw great comment about him going to Ball State or some other tier three program after defecating in the bed.
daz will have to rebuild his reputation elsewhere. bc being a catholic school will honor his contract, but I don’t think it will be renewed once the 5 years are up.
definitely Matt put his foot down and changed the entire Temple offensive scheme from the insane 5 wides to a more balanced approach that we have pleaded for in this space for the last 2 years. Marcus deserves credit for following orders, nothing more. Matt deserves more credit for giving the orders. As far as Addazio, we can all agree that we’re happy he’s BC’s problem.
AG’s struggles are his fault because he won’t fire or demote Donofrio. They have four and five star athletes on defense who Donofrio is clearly is misusing. Send someone with Harbaugh’s coaching skills there, they would have a top defense like Michigan.
AG’s final gift to the university was taking D’Onofrio with him to Miami. Heater was a huge improvement and it seems after a rather embarrassing start Phil Snow is also very effective in that role.
Could be wrong but I think Rhule has taken control of the O. It’s probably not Satterfield’s decisions any more – there’s just to many changes. And btw, what was the attendance?
a legit 35,179 … just a great job by the Temple fans. I told kicker Tyler Mayes after the game that was the first time I ever remember a wave being done at a Temple game. I’ve always hated the wave but I must admit, there was an inherent beauty in seeing it go all around the stadium with not a single Tulane fan involved. Tyler said the players noticed it on the sideline. The first time in my life at either the vet or linc I’ve ever seen the “visiting” side full of Temple fans.
That number made me so happy to read and one I was guessing around during the game (32-33).
Yes, it was homecoming, but it was against a team from Louisiana. Not much of a home crowd. I counted maybe 10 Tulane skaters/hats, that was 35k TEMPLE fans all wearing gear.
This is truly a season to remember.
Mike, I’ve had the same feelings regarding the wave but it was awesome that there were enough TU fans to have it go all the way around the stadium
I didn’t get to nearly as many games last year as I would have like so I don’t know if it was the case then, but it is so good someone finally realized to close the upper decks. In the past there would be IDK 5K fans scattered about the upper deck, why? Make them fill the lower bowl and create a legit football atmosphere. If they don’t want to be sitting next to someone at a football game they don’t want to be at a football game.
Rhule May have changed the offense but Saterfield is still calling the plays. Unlike the guy at BC he has a passing game.
moving UCF to a night game will hurt attendance – fans in the seats is more important to the program than TV revenue at this stage in program development.
bthis team is undefeated and has beaten PSU and Cincy in the same season – no reason for fan apathy!
even though the coaches and the team have flaws they have upheld their side of the bargain – Philly and the entire Temple community must provide this team with better support.
our offense must adjust, it is hard to consistently run the football when the defense put nine guys in the box.
and, I don’t understand why we can’t find a real RB coach? the RBs would not fumble as much as they are doing right now if they had a coach who knew and could teach proper techniques
after talking to the many people I talked to in the concourse and after the game, not a single person–and this includes the Prodigal Sons and Daughters–said that a night game was stand in the way of their decision to come back. We might not get 35K for UCF (I hope we do), but it will at least be in that 25-30K range. Temple Fever is spreading and maybe more than those who were there yesterday will catch it.
Temple fever is spreading you say? I’ve had a couple people ask if I sell any Temple tickets that I don’t attend. When they asked where my seats are (47 yard line) they insisted I keep them in mind if I want to sell. For a TEMPLE game!!
I smiled and said I attend ALL home games.
I sat there in my normal 122 seat and had my mouth open looking at all the Temple fans PACKING the so-called “visitors” side. I have never seen that many Temple fans on the opposite side of the field since Temple Stadium and that happened only for the BC game (1973) and the Villanova game (1971) and the West Virginia game.
This is on a Saturday not a Tuesday or Wednesday like those attendance killing MAC games, and shouldn’t affect the attendance all that much because they’re winning.
This team is 5-0, beat Penn State first time since ’41 beat Cinn. on the road and you come on this board trying to fire someone. Let’s see first it was Snow, then Rhule, then Saterfield and now the running backs coach. He didn’t fumble the balls the players did. By the way all teams have flaws even Ohio Stat too. You really need to stop with the negativity. The team won 49-10. What else do they have to do? I’m sure when they lose a game or two and they will you will want to fire Rhule again.
I don’t know who you are talking about but never once (not once) did I ever call for Temple to fire Rhule. Chill out and enjoy the win.
My comment was for kj who was taking shots at the running backs coach.
Never mind then. My bad. Sorry.
constructive criticism is part of the process.., have you ever listened to coaches when the talk to their players? Telling someone what they have to do to get better is positive, not negative…, Temple needs a quality RB coach. Satterfield is not a good RB coach, and would probably do a better job as the OC if he did not have to coach the RBs.., his full-time job is OC, he is coaching the RBs in his spare time and it shows – period
KJ-Like you would know a good running backs coach from a bad one. Unreal! Guess how many TDs the running backs had on Saturday? If you guessed more than three you would be right.
Temple has started a season 6-0 three times. If they win next week (which they should, UCF is really bad this year) they will make it four. If they win against ECU they will make it 7-0 for the the first time ever. As much as it would be nice to beat ND, ECU is probably the most important game in Temple history. They are in second place in the division and though it is unlikely Temple will lose their lead there is always a chance. Also, if Temple loses that game then there is no luster for the ND game. Imagine the national story if Temple has the better record when ND comes to Philly to play! Winning the ND game would be great and might really change the trajectory of Temple football for years to come but the next two games are conference games and probably far more important.
#leavenodoubt means full focus on ucf then it’s time to cram for the ecu test. after talking with tyler matakevich and tyler mayes yesterday, it appears the team is bound and determined to take that approach. good sign.
At this point, the next game is the most important game of the season. Any letdown, any loss, will be used to say “same old Temple.”
Good points, the way I look at it, ECU could be for the division and the Memphis game could have the potential to be for home field for the AAC championship
Well BP not making a good showing for Temple in the league http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/10/11/9498605/jaguars-special-teams-player-blocks-for-buccaneers-nfl-video
Please, BOT, build us a stadium. Jeffrie Lurie is a fraud. There is more Eagles stuff up at Temple’s homecoming than Temple stuff. Even the tunnels had Eagles banners. Go to a University of Pitt game, there is barely any sign of the Steelers on game day. Can’t stand Lurie.
On a positive note, what a great last 3 quarters. Not sure why the team starts off so slow, but they sure know how to finish!
I don’t know who runs the PA music before the game but Temple needs to adopt some sort of hype up song. For instance, Florida uses (or used) AC/DC Thunderstruck right before kickoff. It needs to be the same song every game to let the crowd know it is go time. Right now the game kind of just begins without a big build up. If the crowd is amped it will get the team amped.
Love the 5-0 start! Keep it going. Does anyone else notice PJ starring down his intended receiver? He never looks DB’s off. And I never see him going through check downs. Is OL not giving him time? He is playing great thus far and he is a good QB. I’m just worried and it seems like a big deal when they play more elite teams he is going to throw a lot of pics. Any thoughts?
The American Conference is outplaying the AAC this year..,
http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html
Memphis is good enough to beat Ole Miss, and Houston just might finish the regular season undefeated. ECU and Memphis are much bigger games for Temple than ND.
Houston has the best chance of finishing the season undefeated and getting into a New Year’s Day Bowl Game.
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See what happens when u trust the process!
the process changed this past winter when Matt Rhule walked out of the film room saying watching the five wides on the goal line at the 1 “made my heart ache.” That process a year ago made my heart ache in real time. Fortunately, Matt saw the light in the darkness of the film room. Better late than never.
and also part of the process was letting Freshman & sophomores develop into Juniors and Seniors. top notch recruiting & developing a winning mindset in these young guys. we are seeing the results of all the above.
The MRAs just won’t give it up that the coaches did a good job the last two seasons. The process was horrendous. The offense was abysmal and the defense was unable to stop anyone when it had to. What the MRAs refuse to acknowledge is that many people on this blog had it right when they criticized the coaching, something the COACHES themselves admitted. They would have had eight wins last season had they run this offense.
Actually Tractorr, there were fans in the upper deck (I watched the game on TV from here in Ohio) and given that the lower deck was filled I was surprised to notice quite a few (dozens if not hundreds) in fact. And as far as amping the team, maybe they’re too amped which is causing all those mistakes in the beginning of every game – even Rhule said they’re too fired up. Even tho I’m still somewhat cautiously optimistic, I’m starting to trust that they will come out and win. The game management has been much more solid, Rhule seems to have a great repoire with the players on the sideline and the play calling is working. Just need to clean up all those early penalties. The players seem like they’re on a mission. If they keep it up and whenever they lose it can’t be blamed on poor performance – by players or coaches. If they lose some it will mean they just get beat by a better team. There is still a long way to go folks, but hold on to your hats – this is FUN!
Those were the club seats. The actual upper decks were closed.
Oh wait, you are right there were some in one section of the upper deck, but most of the upper deck ramps were blocked off.
Mike, are you really hearing only 30K for a campus stadium? That is ridiculous. It would tie us for smallest stadium in the AAC. There is no chance of moving up to a better conference with a stadium like that. Other than Tulane all of the recent stadiums built for AAC teams have been 40K or more. Tulane is happy that they moved up and they know that they aren’t getting an invite anywhere else. Isn’t Temple aiming a bit higher at this point?