Last donation: Heriberto S., McDonough, GA, 4/24/23 (thanks, Heriberto!!) Two on 4/14/23 (thanks to Joe F. and Ross M. ); Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla. 2/18/23 (thanks, Tom!!!)Ed P., Yardley, Pa. (1/9/23; thanks, Ed,) Lawrence S., West Chester, Pa., 12/28/22, our first contribution in over a month (thanks Larry, this will help in having to replace the printer we purchased in the summer that went on the fritz); Bob C., Chadds Ford, Pa., 11/27/22 (thanks Bob, our first contribution since September) Ed P., Perkasie, Pa. who donated 9/24/22 at the UMass game and Ed and I both remember and love Pennridge coach Wayne Helman; Joe S. (Delaware County), 9/3/22 (thanks Joe, hope to see you at Lafayette or RU); James G. (thanks James and for all the great posts you make on this site),, 7/29/22: Matt P. (former Al Golden player, thank you Matt for the generous donation it will be put to good use as we will explain in Monday’s post), 6/9/22; Matt F., Horsham, Pa. (thanks, Matt!!), June 6, 2022; David, B., Milton, DE (thanks, Dave), April 11, 2022: Andy B., Philadelphia, Pa. (our first donation of 2022, thanks Andy), March 3, 2022; Ed P., Yardley, Pa. 12/25/21 (thanks, Ed for the Christmas donation); Matt F., no hometown found (“a celebratory donation for Carey’s firing”), 11/30/21 thanks, Matt; Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio, 11/29/21 (thanks, Jon for the donation and the great comments on this site); James G., Royersford, Pa. 11/28/21 (thanks, Jim, for the donations and your comments on the website); Anonymous (no home town given but donation really appreciated), 11/20/2021; Roger D., Rehoboth Beach,, Del., 10/24/21; Joe S., Drexel Hill, Pa. 10/3/21 (thanks, Joe) At the BC game (9/18), John from Landenburg (thanks, John for being a great friend of this site for so many years); Three Aug. 21 donations: Eric A (former player), Atlanta, Ga; Anonymous (by request), Cincinnati, Oh; Tim R., Buffalo, N.Y. (sincere thanks to all); David N., Silver Springs, Md (thanks Dave) 7/10/21; former Temple player Matt P., who lives in Columbus, GA now (thanks Matt) 7/9/21; Joe F., Philadelphia (4/7/11, thanks Joe) Matt F., Horsham, Pa., 3/27/21 (thanks, Matt); Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio (1/31/21, thanks Jon) Ed P.,, Yardley, Pa. (thanks, Ed, much appredicated), 1/16/21; Mitchell S. , 12/21/20, our first contribution since (10/8) earlier, Former Owl Bruce G., Flourtown, Pa, who generously donated $100 in “honor” of the Ambler guy 10/8/20; (if they hate you in Ambler, we love you in Flortown,” BG says). Thanks, BG, we appreciate it; Earlier: James G., Philadelphia (7/21/20, thanks James) Robert B., Philadelphia (7/13/20, thanks, Bob, hope to see you at the tailgates again this fall); Previous: Jon E. from Cincinnati 6/15/20, our first donation this calendar year (thanks, Jon); Earlier, John from Landenberg; Kurt B., Wyomissing Hills, PA (former Temple player, 10-15-19) Earlier: David B. , Springfield, PA (9/26/19 … thanks, Dave!) also John from Landenberg (9/21/19); Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla. (8/22/19, thanks Tom!! Also, 10 days earlier, Bob. C and Joe S. and, on June 26, first bowl MVP Mark B.
Earlier: Matt F., Philadelphia; Matt P. (former Temple player) John from Landenberg and Jon E. from Cincinnati
Jay M. no hometown found ; Earlier: William B. Chicago; John from Landenberg, ; Mark B, South Jersey, Joe S, Springfield, PA…,
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the culture of giving starts before you graduate.., getting alumni back on campus, holding tailgates with the alumni and next to the school they graduated from can’t be captured at the Linc..,
so there is going to be heavy traffic six days out of the entire year.., or maybe not! Temple on a daily basis supports over 25,000 people and cars who work, teach, support, or are students at the school.., most folks would be surprised at the amount of through traffic the campus supports on a daily basis
From a game attendance perspective I do feel the same as “Fizz” with regards to playing at the Linc. I like the comfort of the club level, parking in Lot K and the good road access. Don’t know how much an OCS could help the program but I do understand a lot of the reasons it is being pursued. If it could help Temple get into a P5 (ACC?) then it definatley make sense. In that regard gaining membership in the AAU and continuing to move up in academic rankings probably help out as much as an OCS.
My concern about building an OCS hasn’t been with traffic, parking or tailgating, those are things that I believe can be worked out, my concern has always been cost and funding. To Fizz’s point, I don’t see how a $100-$125 million stadium “works as well for all concerned”. For that price seems the best you will get in this market is something like Tulane’s new OCS, haven’t been there but almost everything I read about the experience there is bad. With I think something like only 3,000 Owlclub members how much alumni support will there be for this project. Plus we’ve been hearing about an OCS since 1996
Truly believe that the school missed a big opportunity when they failed to build a Carrier Dome type facility when the Liacouras Center was built. For half of what the new stadium is going to cost, they could have built such a facility. As every day passes, it becomes less likely that a stadium is going to be built.
City Council is going to make this a moot point. Temple clearly telegraphed its intentions with the $126 million figure, which means they won’t have the money they had to “pay off” the community that they had when they built the LC. Look at the makeup of City Council. It is more aligned with the community than it is with Temple. There is zero incentive for City Council to approve a shutdown of 15th Street and they simply will not do it. I will talk about the fan experience in tomorrow’s post.
The Carrier Dome type facility would have probably been the best course if action at the time. Have to agree that I just don’t see this project getting done, this iteration of the OCS debate has now been going on for 3 years. In the AAC people point out the new facilities at Houston and Tulane for cost comparisons at $128M for TDECU and $75M for Yuhlman. In each case I believe both schools had the space available for construction without the need to close a street and both were constructed in non-union environments. Given it’s location I suspect Tulane ran into similar community issues and I would assume our admin spoke with them. Right Talen Energy stadium (PPL) in Chester is the most recent compmin this area for construction costs. Cost in 2010 was $120M ($130M in 2016 dollars). I’ve never been there and it seems like a nice, modern facility but again I think all of the necessary space for construction was available and it only seats 18,500, at a minimum Temple would need to add another 12,000 seats which of course increases the cost.
Temple implored the three man rush on 3rd and long while using Reddick as a spy on the QB. I thought it worked out well especially due to the pressure Praise and Roman put on Flowers and his backup. Flowers is an outstanding athlete and you want him to stay in the pocket and beat you through the air. He will kill you with his legs, like he did last year to us. This week with an immobile QB in Kiel, I expect Temple to bring pressure. On passing downs.They can put Deloach and Reddick at the ends and move Praise inside.
Do not give Kiel time because he will kill you as he showed at the end of the game last year. He was the no.1 QB as a high school senior and his arm is A-1. The only thing a prevent defense will do is prevent you from winning. Hit this kid hard and often and picks will follow.
There are a number of drawbacks to playing at the Linc. Restricted scheduling is one. The exorbitant and growing rental fees by Mr. Lurie is another, and the empty look of a 65k stadium for most home games (and no Temple logo on the field) is yet another. A stadium on campus, easily accessible to students, holding 35 k, expandable to 45k, is what we need. Salisrab
Forget about the empty look of the stadium. That is not that big of a deal in my opinion. The bigger issue is a conspicuously green field. No cherry and white anywhere. Its a shame that Lurie has no interest in Temple like the Rooney’s do with Pitt. Game day there looks like an on campus Pitt stadium.
As much as we want to believe that the only reason students aren’t coming to the games is because they have to travel, I point to the Basketball games. Great on campus facility and the student support is lackluster at best unless it’s Nova, Kansas or another marquee matchup. Crickets if it’s Kent State. The general student population unfortunately doesn’t care about TU athletics.
ND games last year was unbelievable because it was THE place to be in Philadelphia. Somehow you have to find the magic elixir to make a TU game “hip”.
I agree. We’ve had a 15-year lab experiment on how a football stadium would be received by Temple students and it’s called the Liacouras Center. In my opinion, one of the great on-campus arenas in the country and I’ve been more disappointed than not with the attendance of the students. Fran Dunphy has the program competitive and won more than lost every year but one, beat top 10 teams in each of the last six years, won a great league’s COY award the last two years, and the Owls cannot sell out the arena on a regular basis. To me, if the football team did what the basketball team has done over the last 10 years we’d have been in a bowl game nine of those years.
Yes the Linc has all the amenities including an abundance of parking and easy access. The problem is the “look” of having 30k people attend a game when the facility holds 66k. Conversely I have been to Navy games in Annapolis where 28k in a 35k seat stadium looks and sounds like a full house. It’s optics plain and simple, what people see on tv for a Temple game are lots of empty seats.
I really believe the figures Temple, err, the Eagles report are accurate. Because of the Army loss, we are topping out in the 25K range and 25K in a 70K (actually 69,826) stadium is bad and looks worse. We had 34K for Army and that should be the minimal acceptable figure for our fan base. Unfortunately, it is largely a belief-based fan base and that balloon was popped against Army and no amount of patching it (5-3 record) is going to get them to come back this season. I will be back because I’m hardcore; unfortunately, the softcore fans will not be back until next year’s opener. Maybe it’s best that the AAC title game will likely be at Navy because 30K for an AAC title game at the Linc is not good optics.