Last donation: Heriberto S., McDonough, GA, 4/24/23 (thanks, Heriberto!!) Two on 4/14/23 (thanks to Joe F. and Ross M. ); Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla. 2/18/23 (thanks, Tom!!!)Ed P., Yardley, Pa. (1/9/23; thanks, Ed,) Lawrence S., West Chester, Pa., 12/28/22, our first contribution in over a month (thanks Larry, this will help in having to replace the printer we purchased in the summer that went on the fritz); Bob C., Chadds Ford, Pa., 11/27/22 (thanks Bob, our first contribution since September) Ed P., Perkasie, Pa. who donated 9/24/22 at the UMass game and Ed and I both remember and love Pennridge coach Wayne Helman; Joe S. (Delaware County), 9/3/22 (thanks Joe, hope to see you at Lafayette or RU); James G. (thanks James and for all the great posts you make on this site),, 7/29/22: Matt P. (former Al Golden player, thank you Matt for the generous donation it will be put to good use as we will explain in Monday’s post), 6/9/22; Matt F., Horsham, Pa. (thanks, Matt!!), June 6, 2022; David, B., Milton, DE (thanks, Dave), April 11, 2022: Andy B., Philadelphia, Pa. (our first donation of 2022, thanks Andy), March 3, 2022; Ed P., Yardley, Pa. 12/25/21 (thanks, Ed for the Christmas donation); Matt F., no hometown found (“a celebratory donation for Carey’s firing”), 11/30/21 thanks, Matt; Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio, 11/29/21 (thanks, Jon for the donation and the great comments on this site); James G., Royersford, Pa. 11/28/21 (thanks, Jim, for the donations and your comments on the website); Anonymous (no home town given but donation really appreciated), 11/20/2021; Roger D., Rehoboth Beach,, Del., 10/24/21; Joe S., Drexel Hill, Pa. 10/3/21 (thanks, Joe) At the BC game (9/18), John from Landenburg (thanks, John for being a great friend of this site for so many years); Three Aug. 21 donations: Eric A (former player), Atlanta, Ga; Anonymous (by request), Cincinnati, Oh; Tim R., Buffalo, N.Y. (sincere thanks to all); David N., Silver Springs, Md (thanks Dave) 7/10/21; former Temple player Matt P., who lives in Columbus, GA now (thanks Matt) 7/9/21; Joe F., Philadelphia (4/7/11, thanks Joe) Matt F., Horsham, Pa., 3/27/21 (thanks, Matt); Jon E., Cincinnati, Ohio (1/31/21, thanks Jon) Ed P.,, Yardley, Pa. (thanks, Ed, much appredicated), 1/16/21; Mitchell S. , 12/21/20, our first contribution since (10/8) earlier, Former Owl Bruce G., Flourtown, Pa, who generously donated $100 in “honor” of the Ambler guy 10/8/20; (if they hate you in Ambler, we love you in Flortown,” BG says). Thanks, BG, we appreciate it; Earlier: James G., Philadelphia (7/21/20, thanks James) Robert B., Philadelphia (7/13/20, thanks, Bob, hope to see you at the tailgates again this fall); Previous: Jon E. from Cincinnati 6/15/20, our first donation this calendar year (thanks, Jon); Earlier, John from Landenberg; Kurt B., Wyomissing Hills, PA (former Temple player, 10-15-19) Earlier: David B. , Springfield, PA (9/26/19 … thanks, Dave!) also John from Landenberg (9/21/19); Tom W., Palm Coast, Fla. (8/22/19, thanks Tom!! Also, 10 days earlier, Bob. C and Joe S. and, on June 26, first bowl MVP Mark B.
Earlier: Matt F., Philadelphia; Matt P. (former Temple player) John from Landenberg and Jon E. from Cincinnati
Jay M. no hometown found ; Earlier: William B. Chicago; John from Landenberg, ; Mark B, South Jersey, Joe S, Springfield, PA…,
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Glad I gave you this storyline in a response on your previous post. Things like this are what makes being a TU football fan so disheartening. Like I said woulda, coulda, shoulda. Not as profound as John Greenleaf Whittier but what did we know in Brooklyn. After all, the Dodgers were the kings of woulda, coulda, shoulda. Then, when they finally won the Series, they left Brooklyn two years later..
I am not sure that Golden should be the first choice for Temple if a change were made. Golden certainly rescued Temple from the disaster that was Temple Football. He was a good organizer and CEO. I thought, and I thought you stated, that his game day coaching was not very good. Not horrible like the current coaches, but not what you need to win repeated conference championships. As you pointed out repeatedly, he never beat a MAC team with a winning record. (I don’t remember if he finally did before he left.) My concern is that he would be able to right the ship, but never bring it to the level of winning the conference championship and a bowl game against a good team. While we would have winning seasons, we would never be in a position to be in the conversation when the major conferences bring in new teams.
Golden was a bad gameday coach here and at Miami. Like Collins, he picked friends as coordinators including Mark Donofrio, who was horrendous. One would hope that he’s learned something through the years.
“Lowly Rutgers”…if you go back to a comment I made over the summer (when you were calling Collins your “home run hire”), you may remember me saying something along the lines of, “You haven’t played a game yet under your new staff. You’re acting like some sort of established power…like any non blue-blood program, you’re one bad hire away from the edge of the cliff.” Rutgers has a ways to go yet after the program was driven into the ground but we’re starting to at least scratch and crawl forward again…what direction does TU seem to be moving in? Too early to answer but I guess it’s not as easy as it looked in July.
Joe P.
I think we’re trending positive. Our last 3 losses have been by either 7 pts or less and were all winnable had the coaches out in Frank Nitule at QB (which we found out last week). RU is still “lowly rutgers” and that loss to EMU look even worse now that they’ve lost to NIU.
Your season depends on the Navy game. Lose that game and you’re likely on your way to 7(+) losses and no bowl, and with the schedule you’re playing this year I don’t know how you can possibly spin that positive. You guys lost some key guys from last year but still had a fairly large amount of starters back and aren’t exactly playing a meat grinder of a schedule.
Joe P.
Totally agree, Joe. In the 34-10 win over a Navy team that appeared unbeatable at the end of last season (even Mike Francesca said Navy was the most interesting and exciting team in college football the week BEFORE the Temple game; funny he did not mention Navy or Temple after that) starters were Armstead (RB), Sharga (FB), Kirkwood and Bryant (wide receivers); 3 of 5 offensive linemen, Martin (DE), Webb and Dogbe (DTs) and Freddy Booth-Lloyd (NG). Another DL who did not play last year (Sharif Finch) was a starter (and star) of the 2015 team and 3 of the 5 defensive backs. This is a coaching failure of unmitigated proportions and the kind I had hoped Temple would avoid. It already is a failure because this team had 10x more talent than UConn and about 2x more talent than Army.
Yes, I was the one who firstsuggested that Collins needs a “2×4 upside the head.” But who is going to pick up that 2×4 and swing it? I’ve also been the one reminding people that Golden, as a not very good game-day coach, never beat a winning MAC team regardless of how he resurrected the program (which he did do). He would not be my choice either for that reason alone.
Right now my only hope is that I saw a few changes in the last game (but unfortunately some stupid calls that lost the game also) and maybe the coaches will do some more tweaking. I see Navy, Cincy and maybe Tulsa as beatable by the Owls, but the stupid calls and bad clock management have to get better.
Does any one know if Temple has a buyout clause in Collins contract ? And if so, what is the amount of the buyout .
Unfortunately, I know a BOT member who said the university gave Collins a guaranteed $2 million per five-year contract with NO (zero) buyout clause. That means the uni is on the hook for a full $10 million should it fire Collins. More interesting is the fact that Baylor paid Temple nothing to buy out Rhule’s contract. To me, if it wanted Rhule so bad, it should have paid Temple $7 million so Temple could afford to hire a big-time coach and not a coordinator.
Dumb move by the BOT and university. They should have insisted on a buyout in Collin’s contract.
Golden Rhule 1. Bowl games interfere with recruiting. Golden Rhule 2. Shine your shoes, comb your hair, hit the road, and sell what their buying. Golden Rhule 3. Good recruits win games and get you noticed.
Golden Rhule 4: Recruits watch games and see that this guy can’t coach and will de-commit in droves.
There was similar catastrophizing when Rhule was 2-10, and he hit the road and found some diamonds in the rough.
He had all of the same East Coast recruiting connections Golden had. This guy is a carpetbagger.
And why oh why do the Temple higherups give out these kinds of contracts – and to coordinators to boot? I mean, what the hell is the matter with them? At 2 mil a year, Temple should be in control!
Frank Nutile gets the start on Thursday. Hopefully Marchi is done for the year .
https://www.google.com/amp/www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/temple/temple-owls-football-frank-nutile-logan-marchi-geoff-collins-20171030.html%3famphtml=y
Hopefully Marchi is done for his career at TU.He’ll make a very good d-2 qb.
Mike, agree with you last year on your Navy win being very strong/ impressive. I’m not surprised at your struggles at QB this year (you don’t just replace a 4-year starter without a drop-off) but with what you had coming back, it’s kind of surprising you’re at 3-5. The season isn’t lost with some very winnable games left for you but I think it all hinges on your Navy game. Agreed that you definitely lost UConn and probably Army due to coaching. I respect Edsall’s coaching ability but they got nothing on offense. Army is disciplined and playing much more sound (not fumbling nearly as much as they used to) but I read that the combined records of the teams they beat is something like 10-28. When I saw that score at 28-21 with under a minute left and Army basically on their side of the field, I figured the game was over and didn’t even realize you had lost until the next day.
I thought TU would have a drop off this year but figured 6-6 was the floor. I don’t know how your staff spins possibly not making a bowl returning about 2/3-3/4 of a conference title team with games against UMass, ECU (whose defense would likely have trouble stopping a slowly rolled beach ball), 1-AA nova, a beatable Army team, UConn, a shaky Tulsa team and a Cincy program that has been cratering for the past 3 seasons.
Joe P.