Stadium: No News Is Bad News

Colorado State was able to get this done in less than half the time TU talked about it.

Way back in May, a post from an ardent Temple fan on one of the two message boards covering Owl sports, read: “When You Hear Nothing, it’s a good thing.”

To use a double-negative for literary effect, nobody knows nothing about anything when it comes to concrete and mortar movement on a new football stadium, err, “multi-use complex” for Temple University.

Colorado State University

It will be a long time before the construction workers show up at Temple

That’s not a good thing, unless you are against the idea of an on-campus stadium at Temple.

Our esteemed friend who posted that is an Owl fan from Virginia who knows a lot about many things but very little about Philadelphia politics. In the same thread, someone else posted “I’m hearing a shovel-in-the-ground date will be in August.”

Obviously, that guy, too, is from a place where the Government functions at a reasonable pace without the palms outstretched and greased. Philadelphia City government in the 21st Century is something that would make the Tamney Hall guys blush.

There will be no “shovel-in-the-ground” date this August simply because there are no scheduled meetings of Philadelphia City Council’s facilities committee—the one that would have to approve Temple’s plan for closing 15th Street—on the docket.

City Council’s  adjourns for the summer after meeting tomorrow (June 21) and does not return until September. So file away the “I’m hearing” guy under another piece of misinformation that has been disseminated about this project since the words “done deal” were uttered in March of 2012.

That was six years ago.


By contrast, the new stadium at Colorado State was proposed in 2014 and construction started in March of 2016 and there has been a full season of football played in it already. That’s Fort Collins, Colorado. This is Philadelphia, Pennsylvania where there has been no progress with the neighbors and their representatives who oppose this plan and another key City Council period to get something done is about to expire.

No deal has been done and no news is definitely not good news.


20 thoughts on “Stadium: No News Is Bad News

  1. Based on that idiotic meeting of concerned neighbors, I would say that most either don’t care or have no strong opinions since so few of them turned out. I also heard that the shouting, disruptive, impolite people at that meeting, or at least most of them, were not local at all but were from an area in West Philadelphia and just came to make trouble, which they did. As for Philly politics, it seems little has changed over the last five decades or so, and it is embarrassing and so bad for the city. Rabbi Dick White


  2. Meanwhile, Lurie takes the millions TU football pays him to play in a taxpayer-funded stadium and buys rings.

    • I think Temple’s BOT was tired of someone else holding their football program hostage (the Eagles) and just rushed into this without thinking through the 15th Street closing obstacle. Now it’s got to be moved to the other sports complex and the Geasey Field sports have to be moved back to Geasey Field. Does the uni admit this mistake or not? Temple can make a good case in Pennsylvania Supreme Court that it has every right to build whatever it wants on the current Olympic sports complex. It has no case to close an existing city street when the city is opposed.

  3. By now it’s obvious how Temple’s power people have bungled this whole thing. Placing the multi-sports complex where the stadium should and could have been sited was a real total brain fart – spending millions recently to do it and ignoring the 15th street closing as a plan killer. It’s frankly incomprehensible how poorly they did things considering all the possibilities layed out in front of them. So, what now? There’s nothing so bad about playing in the Eagles stadium, in fact it’s pretty darned cool. Except for the fees. And again, how come Temple can’t pull some political strings to rework that deal and make it reasonable? This may sound stupid but, is there any possibility to build a stadium around the pratice field that is already there? – or is it not regulation size? or not enough space around it? Just a thought, maybe a silly one, but no sillier than how Temple has already screwed this whole deal up!

  4. the stadium if forever gone and TUFB is quickly filling up the hour glass. I would be stunned if Temple was still in the AAC five years from now.., only the City of Philadelphia can take a successful college football program and kill it

  5. No news is good news. Palm-greasing, hush money, soft-money campaign financing contributions don’t make noise or news.

    • doubt it. If you are planning to only spend $130 million on a bare-bones stadium, there is hardly anything budgeted for hush money, soft money or campaign contributions. They are building this stadium on the ultra cheap and, unlike the LC, are not willing to grease any palms and drive the cost up any further. Doubt you could get Frankford High’s stadium built for $130 million in today’s labor market, let alone one at Temple.

  6. Just saw that Pat Kraft is one of three finalists for Maryland AD job. He’s getting off before the TU sports ship sinks. Nevertheless, if he gets the job, it could be a plus if the ACC opens its books so to speak to new members.

    • how does Kraft getting the UMD job have anything to do with ACC expansion?

      • Realized about an hour after I posted that Maryland is now inn the Big Ten. My bad. It’s hard to remember that after 55 years of they’re being in the ACC. LOL.

  7. Would he be an advocate for the Owls being admitted, or would he abstain from voting citing his relationships. As it is, the ACC should call the one division the Big East with Syracuse, BC, Pitt, VPI, Louisville and Miami being the members. With Rutgers unavailable, Owls would be a logical selection.

    If they would be invited, would be better to play games at the Linc. Visiting team fans travel or have local alums who would bump attendance by several thousand. And the crossover game would bring in some of the better, more intriguing teams (FSU, Ga Tech, Clemson) that would attract casual fans. Easy to assume attendance would get past 35,000 for some of these games, especially if the program maintains the improvement. It is being noticed.

  8. BTW, Colorado State probably had none of the issues Temple is up against to build their stadium. City ordinances, uncooperative politicians, closing off a city street, funding problems, neighborhood complaints, etc. Not a fair comparison. Mike you’ve used other inner city school stadiums in the past to compare to. Temple really does have unique problems which is why they have a hard time elevating their stature in a variety of ways.

    • Jon, I thought the same. Might as well compare apples to apples,and not oranges. Maybe compare it against Tulane or U of Houston.

      • Comparison is a valid one in that CSU is a G5 football school like ourselves and its stadium is located in the middle of a residential area that supports the campus it surrounds. Temple is an oasis in a desert surrounded by hostile neighbors. I don’t think that exists in any other environment, even cities like Miami, Boston, Memphis, New Orleans and Atlanta located in dense residential areas that did not oppose stadiums. Somehow, the social justice warriors latched onto this project when they should be concerned about other issues that more directly impact them than a stadium open only six of the 365 days a year.

  9. good for Kraft, super bad for Temple…., we have a rendezvous with our destiny, second tier.

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