Commits so far: A Big City Feel

Ethan Dempsey from Charlotte Rolesville (N.C.) will be joining the Owls in 2027.

Coaches like to talk about getting the right fit and that includes everything from game plans to starter to recruits.

A fit is looking like part of the plan for Temple in the high school recruiting department as the Owls picked up the New York City championship game MVP (Ameir Morrow) last year and the D.C. Championship game MVP this year (Jakari Graham).

Temple recruit Jakari Graham makes three one-hand catches in the same game.

Not surprising that both found Philadelphia a good fit because they thrived in big city environments before and there is a belief–at least among the Temple coaching staff–that they can thrive here, too.

Graham isn’t the only big-city player Temple has added as Temple got added Camden pass rusher Amara Dolleh (6-5, 230), DeMatha Catholic (also D.C) offensive tackle Kevin Nesbittt (6-6, 320) and Charlotte, N.C. wide receiver Ethan Dempsey (6-3, 198).

Others–with the possible exception of edge rusher Caleb Saint Fleur (6-2, 230)–are country bumpkins by comparison. Saint Fleur is from Hollywood, Fla., which for all intents and purposes is Miami.

Pleasantville (N.J.) RB Ta’kiesse Barnes is the only three-star recruit for the Owls so far.

That’s 11 so far in an expected class of 25. The Owls have way more offers out that available scholarships so it is incumbent on those being recruited to accept the offers as soon as possible or risk holding the bag or going to lesser G5 or even FCS schools.

Temple is taking a developmental approach to its high school recruits, building a team the old-fashioned way–getting the skill position players a chance to play right away, while putting the linemen in a lock box with the idea being getting them in the weight room and a redshirt year to adjust to college without being force-fed into a starting job, like Stan Drayton was forced to do with Luke Watson.

If there is any concern so far, only one–Pleasantville (N.J.) running back Ta’kliesse Barnes–has a three-star rating. That will probably mean Temple won’t get the No. 1 recruiting class in the American Conference this year unless it hits on a lot of stars in the remaining 14 offers. That doesn’t mean it won’t be a good class but it does mean the public perception of it won’t be as high.

All that matters is what the future Owls do between the white lines starting in 2027.

For the best recruiting news, follow Owlsdaily.com. Here is that site’s list of current Temple recruits:

June Recruiting: Temple holds all the cards

Amazing how Temple football was so highly thought of in the sports section of The New York Times.


Happy to see that K.C. Keeler likes to tell the same story about Wayne Hardin now that I used to 20 years ago.

Keeler recently talked about being recruited by Temple and then being brought into Hardin’s office with Wayne’s first question being: “Son, do you play golf?”

I had to laugh because, as a 17-year-old rookie reporter for The Temple News, I was asked the same question by this most important Temple football Hall of Fame head coach (yes, more important than Pop Warner).

Wayne Hardin asks starting quarterback Doug Shobert (who told us he will attend a Temple football game this fall) if he played golf before sending him out for the coin toss in this 1973 game.

Keeler was 17 at the time and wanted to know if he received a scholarship from Temple. I was 17 only a couple of years before that and was in Hardin’s office and one of the questions Wayne asked was, “Son, do you play golf?”

(I didn’t nor did K.C.)

Didn’t matter.

The larger point was that Hardin, an avid and great golfer, wanted to make a golf analogy to a football question and made it even though I had no idea of the inner workings of golf. Since there was no Google back then, I went back and looked up what he said and how it applied to that sport and everything made sense.

Keeler telling the same story made me laugh because Hardin was trying to make a point about missing the cut and Keeler, who thought he was about to be offered a scholarship, instead heard a story about great golfers missing the cut and applying that to recruits Temple wanted by ran out of scholarships to hand them.

That was Hardin’s way of saying Temple was out of scholarships and Keeler missed the cut.

Didn’t mean Keeler wasn’t a great player and Temple didn’t love him but had no more schollies.

That’s where this month comes into play for Keeler, Temple, and the guys Temple offered.

Instead of a scholarship to Temple, K.C. Keeler was forced to accept one to Delaware, where he lost twice to Wayne Hardin (and beat him once).

There is a thread on the Owlsdaily.com site about Temple offers and it only seems like Temple offered 8,134 guys.

Plenty of offers, very few scholarships left.

In many ways in this current high school recruiting environment, Temple–and only a few schools like it–holds all the cards.

Word to the wise (or at least all those being recruited for by the Owls), if you have a scholarship offer from Temple now, accept it immediately. Because, by the end of the month, that scholarship will be gone and so will your opportunity to make any money either from Temple or because of Temple.

That’s because the Owls are near the top of the most high-profile G5 programs in the country. If you succeed at Temple, you will have two choices: 1) Stay with your brothers and continue to win under the next Temple Hall of Fame football coach or 2) Go elsewhere for bigger bucks. Largely, P4s have given up on recruiting high school players so the question is do or don’t.

If you don’t, the opportunities to succeed in college football don’t vaporize but they do diminish. The good players know that and are accepting offers from Temple now.

The others risk the same golf story Hardin told Keeler being told to them by Keeler.

What goes around comes around indeed.

Monday: Big City Guys and Temple

TFF’s No. 1 Summer Priority: Getting Lamar Best up to speed

Thanks to Zamani Feelings for this great artwork. Love the diamonds.

After monitoring the upcoming visits from high school ranks, we’re very aware of what K.C. Keeler’s No. 1 June priority is right now.

Nabbing another No. 1 American Conference high school class. Temple should be able to recruit a great high school class every year because, with the transfer portal, P4s are pretty much dropping high school recruiting.

The Lamar Best part of this interview (sound quality not great, so we recommend headphones) starts at the 9:57 timestamp.

We’re onboard with that but the meteorological summer includes three months, not one, and there is a summer priority after that.

Getting freshman phenom quarterback Lamar Best up to speed.

Whether that speed means overtaking Jaxon Smolik and Ajani Sheppard, that’s pretty much a combination of two things: 1) Tyler Walker cramming his read-option offense into Best’s head and, 2) Best absorbing all that information.

Put it this way: After watching Smolik on Cherry and White Day, I came away with two observations and those were he was good enough to get Temple to a bowl game but probably not good enough to get Temple to a championship. There is a very low ceiling for both Smolik and Sheppard.

To me, the best Smolik can be is an “Evan Simon-Lite”–meaning having a lot of the qualities of Evan, but not all. After seeing Sheppard, he looks like Chester Stewart to me. Not good enough.

For Best, on the other hand, the sky’s the limit. His 41-inch vertical leap and 4.4 speed make him the most athletic quarterback in the conference by a longshot.

Those 5- and 6-yard gains on option reads with Simon (and perhaps Smolik) were nice but they turn into explosive 70- and 80-yard scores with Best.

A few of those and that ceiling is the American Conference championship.

Now no one understands the difficulty of jumping from high school ball to college more than Keeler and his staff but Best already made a similar jump when he went from Willingboro to St. Joseph’s. Willingboro is a good level of football but St. Joseph’s of Montville is the top of the top of New Jersey football.

P.J. Walker made a similar jump from being a New Jersey state champ at Elizabeth to a true freshman starter at Temple.

Best is faster in the 40, has a higher vertical leap and threw more touchdown passes in high school than Walker and it doesn’t take a leap of faith to see him having a more impactful freshman season.

Recruiting is the focus this June, but the Owls have two months to get Best up to speed and that should be job one until opening day. Whether that speed puts him between Smolik and Sheppard or gives him the job outright is something that should be up to Lamar himself.

For those who say it cannot be done, it has been done at Temple in 2013 and at BYU in 2025 with pretty good results. Hell, every year all over college football true freshman quarterbacks win G5 championships.

That’s never been done at Temple. Now would be a good time.

Temple football: The Boys Are Back in Town

R.J. Blount’s work as a track star and his getting to Temple early gives him an, err, leg up on the competition.

Every once in a while, Temple head football coach K.C. Keeler might say something that would give one pause.

K.C. Keeler tells the team there is a lot of hard work ahead but the reward will be more than worth it.

For me, the “biggest something” was that Keeler noted that preseason practice would “basically start on June 1” after giving a summation of Cherry and White Day way back on April 11.

June 1 is today.

(Made a note to check when the “official” NCAA practice was allowed and it was 42 days before the opening game. This is way more than 42 days.)

Ameir Morrow is a from a Brooklyn high school of greatness, having produced basketball’s Billy Cunningham and pop star Neil Diamond. He, like Blount, participated in spring ball.

Now that depends upon the interpretation of preseason practice is. What Temple is allowed to do from now until August is eight hours per week of preseason instruction, which includes four hours of coaching and weightlifting, etc.

When things really ramp up in August it’s 42 hours per week. Maybe the Owls can get away with a little over eight hours of “official” work because there’s really little oversight in college football anymore but we’ll see.

Eight hours a week until August seems a little light.

That’s a lot of cramming for some important tests, particularly with so many new faces on the team.

Since Keeler considers June 1 the target date, we can assume he’s going to make the best use of those eight hours and treat it as a preseason camp of sorts.

That has to be good news for every Temple football fan because it involves film study and learning from the mistakes in 2025 that turned a 7-5 season into a 5-7 one.

After some well-deserved time off, looks like a strong brotherhood has formed upon the Owls return to campus on Sunday.

Maybe that 5-7 goes to 7-5 or better.

To me, the key is establishing a running game and Temple has the pieces in place. Hunter Smith was every bit as talented as No. 1 back Jay Ducker was and way more explosive. He has the inside track to the No. 1 RB spot.

Sam Brown has been oft-injured and had some impressive Big 10 production along with being the star of spring practice. (Maybe that’s because Smith had been held back due to some Joel Embiid-type “load management.”)

The real surprise, though, in the young depth behind Smith and Brown, including Keveun Mason (who showed flashes last year as a true freshman), DeCarlos Young, R.J. Blount and Ameir Morrow. I don’t remember the last time Temple has had that kind of quality depth at the RB position. Maybe the last time was when Paul Palmer played here with Shelley Poole, Sheldon Morris, Ventres Stevenson and the McNair brothers (Todd and Scott) but that was the mid-1980s.

The question worth asking is can someone out of those bottom three show enough flashes to actually make a difference on the field?

Unlike last year, when it was Mr. Inside (Ducker) and Mr. Outside (Smith), we think yes.

In fact, if someone does, Temple benefits because they all have different skill sets and, in the American Conference, speed kills and the younger RB group appear to be slightly faster than their older teammates.

They got a head start by being a big part of spring practice and we’ll find out if that speed moves them up the depth chart starting today.

Friday: No. 1 priority

An historic opportunity for fan engagement at Temple

The “later date” is today and the time and network is the ESPN flagship network and Temple football will be the only thing on in every sports bar in country in the most crowded Happy Hour of every week, Friday.

On the surface, a 4 p.m. start on a Friday afternoon for a Temple football game looks pretty strange.

First of all, Temple fans who can afford to do it will have to take a day off–or at least negotiate a half-day–to get in some semblance of a pre-game tailgate.

What we’re talking about is Temple being part of an ESPN tripleheader starting at 4 on Sept. 25 with a home game against a true national team, Army.

That’s the somewhat bad news.

The good news might outweigh it, though, if the university as a whole takes this as a challenge.

Declare that Friday in September “Temple Football Day” on campus and cut off all classes at noon. Start a free shuttle bus system at 12:30 in front of the Bell Tower that runs every half hour and make sure the students get treated like royalty with free food and a free tailgate when they get off the bus. Incredible, because it involves not only the 10,000+ students living on campus but the 20,000+ plus students who commute to Temple from Philadelphia and the suburbs.

You are not going to get all 30,000 full-time students to buy in but 15,000 is a realistic goal since cash-strapped students (I know because I was one 100 years ago) love free stuff.

It’s an investment not only in the future but in the present.

Temple football being the only thing on every TV in every sports bar in the country during one of the most lucrative times of sports TV watching–Happy Hour on the final day of the work week in America.

If the university tried to purchase that kind of national advertising, it would cost in the high millions. They now have it pretty much for free and must capitalize to create an engaged crowd showing a worthwhile product.

That means, on a Friday in Philadelphia, students leading the way.

Have those fans watching an involved crowd of mostly students behind their classmates would be the most positive advertising Temple can ever purchase not even locally but nationally.

K.J. deserves all the credit for this terrific idea.

The future part comes into play by establishing a bond between the current students–both commuter and residents–and the university and attracting financial support down the road from students who remember their positive experiences with the school while at the school.

A fun, winning, game against a nationally known team like Army is a positive experience. (That would involve a whole day of defensive practice against the triple option one day a week during at least August and maybe through the first three weeks of Sept.)

We’ll leave the winning part up to head Temple football coach K.C. Keeler and his staff.

The creating the experience part is up to President John Fry with a nudge from athletic director Arthur Johnson. Thousands of engaged, happy, students now lead to millions in contributions in 20 years. A small investment now for a huge return later.

That ball is in their court or, in this case, field (Lincoln Financial).

Monday: A Surprise Position

It’s about time the student section comes back to this level of support. The Army game provides a perfect opportunity.

College Football News checks in on Temple football

Every once in a while, you read something on the internet from a guy who thinks he knows everything about Temple football.

With Temple playing Penn State on Sept. 12, we are going to run into a lot of those guys.

Like this guy:

Pretty good tweet followed by an ignorant one about Temple not fielding a football team.

My only answer to him is something a very wise man once said on the cross more than 2,000 years ago: “Father forgive them because they don’t know what they are doing.”

In that case, saying it’s a shame Temple stopped fielding a football team. A guy from “Sinking Spring, PA” who should have known better.

I shamed him in the following four posts below his name, including receipts.

Others with some knowledge–like College Football News–are doing a deeper dive into Temple football and coming up with a more fair and balanced assessment.

The one guy who answered the 2stripesCPD post would be wise to read that assessment of this fall’s Temple football team.

Like us in February, College Football News and Temple Football Forever are in agreement that the Owls will finish 6-6.

Unlike CFN, we hope we are wrong and can see a pathway to a few more wins. First, we know Jaxon Smolik is inexperienced. On the other hand, not even in the Al Golden and Matt Rhule Eras–no doubt the best of the last 20 years–was Temple able to recruit a 4* quarterback. (P.J. Walker, for example, was a 3*.) Now, weirdly in this transfer portal era, 4* guys stuck behind other 4* guys are dropping down to Temple.

The Owls might benefit from that.

In fact, our post last week was us putting our money where our months were and plucking down $10 on Temple to win the American Conference football championship, repeating a feat it was able to accomplish a decade ago. That $10 investment could return us $460. (I wish I had $100 for a $4,600 return but we preach only bet what you can afford to lose.)

The twitter account @gnestro probably doesn’t even know Temple football won the AAC title in 2016 nor appeared in the championship game in 2015.

Father forgive him, because he doesn’t know what he’s saying. Or talking about. With Temple football playing Penn State this year, it won’t be the first or last guy who claims Temple gave up on fielding a football team.

So we have to get ready for those kinds of comments.

College Football News supplied the most interesting stat in its lead paragraph and that was in 33 years of football, K.C. Keeler has never had two losing seasons in a row.

He doesn’t plan on having one now, no matter what that guy down the street who claims he knows something about football tries to tell you. Plan is the operative word and what Keeler has done both maintaining and adding to the roster is the result of over 30 years of planning and it should pay dividends once again.

Friday: The Most Surprising Room

Don’t bet against a team with two All-Americans

Temple punter Dante Atton (laughing, No. 7) is a preseason first-team All-American. Peter Clarke may join him.

(Photo courtesy of Zamani Feelings)

On most betting markets, the Temple football “over/under” is 5.5.

That means, if Temple wins six or more, you win and “The Man” (the house) loses.

Fortunately, I jumped on future College Hall of Fame coach K.C. Keeler and the Temple Owls when the man gifted me a ridiculously low 3.5 last year.

Going to do the same this year at the 5.5 number.

The reasoning is simple.

It’s hard to beat a G5 team with one All-American. It’s even more difficult to beat one with two.

Yeah, I know the No. 1 concern is a quarterback position where the Owls don’t have a single guy who ever started a college football game, but anyone who watched the Cherry and White game (raising my hand here) was more than satisfied with the performance of Penn State transfer quarterback Jaxon Smolik.

He’s got a little bit of Joel Embiid in him in that his career is injury plagued but there’s a chance he’s past that.

He certainly will have two All-Americans to work with if things play out the way we expect.

When I watched the Cherry and White game on April 11 (and got a $100 ticket for “speeding” on Broad Steet going 41mph), I was aware the Owls already had one certified consensus pre-season All-American in punter Dante Atton.

This week, the realization hit home they have another: Tight End Peter Clarke.

Clarke was named one of the five “tight ends to watch” this week and Mel Kiper had Clarke as one of the top 10 tight ends on the entire board had he come out for the 2026 draft.

Instead, Clarke made the gamble to return to Temple to move closer to the No. 1 tight end of the 2027 class and the gamble seems to be working because people have been watching his film in the offseason and noticed.

Add to that the fact that Clarke’s character is off the charts and that’s something every NFL team likes.

Clarke was the glue who kept an entire G5 roster together. Keeler gave him the credit for not only retaining the current roster (“we were the only G5 team not to lose a single starter”) and recruiting the No. 1 transfer portal group in the entire G5.

Catches in traffic mean a lot, YAC (yards after catch), too, but add on character and that’s an unbeatable combination.

To be a first-round NFL pick, Clarke won’t have to match Bruce Francis’ 2008 season with the Owls (15 TDs) but just reach 10 TDs and 1,000 yards.

That’s about the number for every past first- or second-round NFL draft choice in the past.

Winning will raise his profile even more so maybe that’s why Clarke worked so hard to build the roster.

Ironically, Clarke’s main goal is to lead an offense that keeps the other All-American (Atton) off the field.

My guess is Atton won’t mind if the Owls score touchdowns and kick field goals and never punt. (I know that sounds crazy but Temple went two straight games without punting in the 2023 season, led by quarterback E.J. Warner. Going 10 more may be a stretch, but it’s a goal worth striving for.)

If that happens, the Owls blow way past that 5.5 number and make a lot of their fans happy.

And maybe their wallets much thicker.

It still won’t pay my Cherry and White speeding ticket, which is due May 23, but the ROI on the Owls should pay dividends come December.

A fluid situation: Temple’s home schedule

Up until a few days ago, the last weekend of September was already planned.

Tailgate on Saturday morning, a game on Saturday afternoon.

Then the schedule makers changed things up by moving the Saturday afternoon home game against Army to a Friday night game.

There are good and bad things about that Friday night (9/25) date.

First the good.

Temple gets a chance to open some eyes on national TV against a respected opponent.

Then the bad.

From Temple’s perspective, an extra practice day against Army is always a good thing especially considering that the Owls have to travel to Toledo on Sept. 19, which is exactly one week after the home Penn State game.

Not an ideal situation, so maybe head coach K.C. Keeler will set aside a practice day per week to install defensive principles against Army and Navy.

Whatever problems Temple had against Army were offensive-related, not defensive, in a 14-13 loss. You limit Army to 14 and you should be able to win the game. My feeling last year was Temple didn’t take advantage of its passing game and played into Army’s hands.

Maybe that approach changes this year. We’ll see.

Evan Simon threw for over 300 yards against Navy but didn’t get that same chance because Army capitalized on the time of possession. He uncharacteristically overthrew tight end Peter Clarke in the end zone and that would have given the Owls the win.

Also problematic in the Army game a year ago was a 45-yard field goal miss by Carl Hardin. You get so few scoring opportunities against Army, you have to cash it and Temple missed two big chances there.

The realization in this day and ago is that the schedule is so fluid fans will have to rearrange any plans they have given the time of games and day of games. That’s all due to TV controlling things.

It’s not ideal but it’s all part of the imperfect college football world we live in today.

Friday: A Second All-American

Monday: Legacy Pecking Order

The most crowded room until June 1: Keeler’s office

Appearances like this one on can’t hurt the season-ticket drive for Temple football, which is currently underway.

Not to say there is nobody in the house, but Temple head coach K.C. Keeler gave the players some time off between now and June 1, the target date for summer camp.

Still, one room is always occupied and that is Keeler’s.

Over the last couple of weeks, Keeler did a very revealing interview (video at the top of this post), where he talked about his being recruited by Temple, and also the time Jalen Hurts and former Temple offensive coordinator Scot Loeffler visited campus to work out.

That was the definition of killing two birds with one stone, getting the Temple message out to the fans and grabbing the kind of publicity that all the ads in the newspaper can’t buy: Associating the Philadelphia Eagles’ star player with Temple football.

Keeler’s interview with “break the huddle” was revealing in the sense that, while some fans on social media bemoan the fact that Temple doesn’t have money to compete with the big boys, Keeler is perfectly satisfied with his resources.

“It’s been amazing,” Keeler said. “I thought this was going to be a great job. It’s beyond what I thought it would be. The resources we have and the recruiting territory which I know to be one of the best in the country.”

Contrast that to what Stan Drayton said after losing 56-6 to Tulane in 2024, where he said Temple couldn’t compete without an infusion of money.

Since then, though, Keeler not only brought in the No. 1 high school class in the American Conference but also the No. 1 transfer portal class in the league. In the same interview, Keeler said Temple was the only team in the country “at this level” (G5) that didn’t lose a single starter in the transfer portal.

That’s a pretty impressive trifecta of player acquisition and retainment and speaks well for some alumni who have stepped up and contributed.

Winning will beget more contributions, bigger crowds and more winning.

That’s the way those things work.

It helps to have the most high-profile NFL player visit the campus every now and then and maybe opens up some Philadelphia Eagles fans who have been priced out of season tickets to think about the other hometown team. Hurts’ appearance at Temple was also covered on local TV newscasts and Temple couldn’t buy that kind of publicity.

Also, he praised both Jaxon Smolik and Ajani Sheppard, who have experience in two Big 10 programs.

On Smolik: “He was a guy who was an Elite 11 quarterback. The Penn State guys love him. It’s just the injuries held him back.”

On Sheppard: “When he became available, we said, “Hey, come back home.’ “

On the defensive line: “We’ve really improved dramatically along the defensive line.”

Spreading the word helps sell season tickets, and the more people Keeler can preach to, the more fannies will be in the seats and that’s what is needed now.

Friday: A Fluid Position

The Ultimate Survivor Show: Temple’s Nadia Harvin

Great job by Temple TV’s Ashley Lovelace here.

Amazing in my mind that the show The Survivor has been on for 26 years now.

It seemed like only yesterday that I watched the first year when Richard Hatch won the $1 million prize in the year 2000.

At the time, I thought that was nothing because Hatch survived only one season.

By then, Temple University’s Nadia Harvin survived her 14th season in the football program.

TFF’s interpretation of interesting: Asshole (sorry, Nadia)

Whatever this stupid new show, I thought, was child’s play in comparsion.

It still is.

There is no nicer person involved in Temple football than Nadia and no survivor story anywhere in college football that even compares. Her job is “executive assistant” to the Temple football head coach and, no matter who the Temple football head coach is, she has survived.

They have not.

Nadia has been the rock of Temple football for not only Bruce Arians, but for Jerry Berndt (RIP), Ron Dickerson, Bobby Wallace, Al Golden, Steve Addazio, Matt Rhule, Geoff Collins, Rod Carey, Stan Drayton and now K.C. Keeler.

Wow.

Me? With this kind of diplomacy, I would have lasted about six minutes, not 50 years.

Since all these big-time college football coaches like to bring their own staff, Nadia’s longevity is not only impressive it is spectacular. A lot of this is due to the relationships she made along the way, not only with the players but with the fans.

I thought about all of this while attending my 58th-straight Cherry and White Day. I stopped by Joe Greenwood’s tailgate, where I usually she Nadia but missed her this time.

That was one of the rare occasions, though. I almost always run into Nadia on gameday and she usually gives me a hug and when I write something negative, she admonishes me and I write something positive gives me encouragement, but she knows my heart is in the right place.

As do I with her.

When I got home I watched the excellent job Ms. Lovelace did on the above piece and have to second the motion.

This is the kind of recognition Nadia Harvin deserves.

Geoff Collins with Nadia after the GT job imploded. Probably not happy he ever left Temple.

Love her short descriptions of the coaches she served under.

Pretty damn diplomatic. Despite Daz getting Temple to a bowl game in his first season with Golden’s players, I thought that Daz was a detriment to the program. After a 4-7 season, I knew Temple football enough that the administration wasn’t going to fire him but heard on KYW radio while driving past the Rydal SEPTA Regional Rail Station that Boston College gave him a job.

I banged on the steering wheel in celebration that they took him off Temple’s hands.

When Carey was fired, I was shocked that Temple did an un-Temple-like thing in firing a guy with two years left on a $2 million per-year contract.

Didn’t want Stan Drayton because I felt a school as large and as prestigious as Temple was deserved a big-time winning head coach and not a guy whose Peter Principle was an RB coach.

Now that they have one, Temple football has become a lot more interesting than it ever was under Daz or Carey and, I for one (maybe thousands) are glad longtime people like Nadia Harvin will be around to see the results.

In this definition, interesting means winning more than it means asshole.

Monday: The Most Crowded Room